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Every auto show seems to spawn as many rumors as concepts, and though the rumors out of the 2010 Detroit Auto Show have been sparing thus far, the latest is a fun one. We recently reported that the 2011 Infiniti G sedan would get a turbocharged 2.5-liter V-6 variant called the G25 to slot in below the 3.7-liter G37. It appears this was not entirely accurate, with sources in Japan revealing that a new entry-level G25 is in the works but it won't be coming with a turbocharged engine.

Instead, it will stick with the naturally aspirated 2.5-liter V-6 found in the Japanese domestic market Nissan Skyline 250GT sedan. This particular unit features double overhead cams and is rated at 210 horsepower and 195 pound-feet of torque--enough to give the 230 horsepower BMW 328i sedan a run for its money.

We can't be sure of the details, and it's certainly not official yet, but it is an interesting idea.

Still, regardless of the sketchy details, the idea of a more entry-level Infiniti G sedan is intriguing. One does have to wonder, however, what implications moving further down-market and down in price might have on Infiniti's brand perception as a whole. With the new M on the way and Infiniti's efforts to move that nameplate even further up-market, the G25 seems almost counterproductive.

Even if the 2011 Infiniti G25 does manage to materialize in U.S. dealerships, don't expect it to include coupe or convertible versions--at least at first. According to the report, strong sales of the base sedan would mean both variants would also get the green light down the road, but that the four-door model would be the only one to start.

What do you think will happen? What would you like to see change in the entry-level luxury segment? Let us know below.

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Comments (16)

  1. By  Eric Posted: 1/12/2010 3:07pm PST

    Sounds like a diesel to me. That about the hp the most modern diesels from mercedes and Bmw produce.
     
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  2. By  Eric Posted: 1/12/2010 3:09pm PST

    And if its a diesel which i think it is, the torque figures will be the headline makers. Look for them then to be in the very high threes, possibly low four 400s.
     
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  3. By rodan Posted: 1/12/2010 3:24pm PST

    I doubt that this is any more counterproductive than the 1 series, HS250h or any other more efficient/cheaper thing that is coming ...
     
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  4. By bepsf Posted: 1/12/2010 3:51pm PST

    The Nissan VQ engine series are not diesels.
    VQ25HR
    The 2.5 L VQ25HR (for "High Revolution" or "High Response") is only offered on rear wheel drive vehicles. Bore and stroke are 85 mm and 73.3 mm, with a compression ratio of 10.3:1. It produces 223 PS (164 kW; 220 hp) to 225 PS (165 kW; 222 hp) @6,800 rpm and 194 ft·lbf (263 N·m) @4,800 rpm. It has CVTC, microfinished camshafts and a redline of 7,500 rpm.
    It is fitted to the following vehicles:
    2006–present Nissan Skyline V36 250GT Sedan - 225 PS (165 kW; 222 hp)
    2004–present Nissan Fuga Y50 250GT - 223 PS (164 kW; 220 hp)
     
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  5. By NoNameDenton Posted: 1/12/2010 4:47pm PST

    I read somewhere that the turbo version of this engine makes around 280 hp.
     
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  6. By  fm transmitter Posted: 1/12/2010 6:55pm PST

    At first, the G35 was cool and contemporary. Then, Infiniti showed that they had a car perfect for evolutionary designs. Then I got bored, and yet they still kept going. Now that the tastes of many of their customers have moved on, Infiniti decided to stay with their two brush strokes, thinking that they could be Aston Martin or Porsche or something. That would be fine if every time I thought of the new G in my head, I wouldn't accidentally be reminded of a Maxima or Altima. The interior is worse than the droopiness of the new M's and embarrasingly less attractive than the EX's and FX's despite being cheaper by only a few cents.
     
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  7. By eric Posted: 1/12/2010 8:27pm PST

    the new 2.5 twin turbo cannot be a vq then not with 210 hp. The post is probably misrepresenting the facts.2.5L turbos are with that hp are top shelf diesel units with loads of torque case in point the new 2.1l mer diesel @ 201hp it its most potent tune.Its a 4cl though.
     
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  8. By eric Posted: 1/12/2010 8:30pm PST

    Sorry for the post above, I meant to say the new E Class 2.1L diesel sold as the E250d is rated at 201 hp.
     
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  9. By bepsf Posted: 1/12/2010 9:19pm PST

    Eric--
    So name us a contemporary Nissan/Renault V6 diesel of 2.5 liters displacement currently adapted for a RWD installation.
    Hint: It doesn't exist.
    The Japanese don't like diesel cars - so Nissan doesn't have a single diesel for the JDM non-truck market.
    The lone V6 diesel Renault does currently have is the 3.0L dCi V9X (derived from the 4-cylinder 2.0L dCi, introduced in 2005) which produces 235hp/331lb/ft torque and was introduced in the FWD Laguna in 2008.
    The same engine will show up here in the 2010 USM Maxima and will eventually be adapted for RWD applications such as the Euro-Market Infiniti FX, EX and M.
     
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  10. By Saabaru5 Posted: 1/13/2010 12:10pm PST

    First off, give bepsf ^ a cookie.
    I don't know where Eric got the idea that this would be a diesel, because there is no such indication in this article..
    I do think it would be awesome if they offered it in diesel form though, look at the success that BMW and VW are experiencing with it.
     
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  11. By  Eric Posted: 1/13/2010 2:53pm PST

    I figure this is a diesel from the hp rating @210 hp. Think about it, the VQ25HR produces 221hp without the use of a turbo,it therefor makes no sense as the article says to spend more money to add a turbocharger to that unit only for it to make less hp; unless of course Nissan is looking to introduce the YD25 diesel engine already in use with the Frontier in other markets. That engine could be upgraded to produce 210 hp, it currently produces about 172hp.That would make it one of the best small diesels out there and more powerful than a gas Lexus is 250 which produces 204 hp.I think there is a market for diesels especially with gas prices getting higher everyday. Id buy one.
     
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  12. By Saabaru5 Posted: 1/13/2010 3:19pm PST

    Eric, Lets hope you're right. I'm all for diesels in the US.
     
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  13. By  David W Posted: 1/14/2010 7:38pm PST

    I have worked for Infiniti for the last 5 years. I have worked for BMW, Acura, Audi, and Lexus. Infiniti truly gives the most bang for your buck. This is a vehicle that Infiniti needs to compete with the BMW 328 and the Lexus IS250. These vehicles will gear more towards women, especially since most don't care about the horsepower that a vehicle makes. This vehicle has been confirmed by Infiniti themselves and will be released sometime in the end of 2010. I totally look forward to the release of this vehicle and I believe it will help Infiniti compete with other luxury brands. This vehicle will not be offered as a diesel whatsoever. As far as platforms go, Infiniti is one of the only luxury brands that does not share a platform with its lower end brand. For example, the G is not built on the Altima and the M is not built on the Maxima. The Nissans are FWD and Infiniti is strictly RWD. The only Infiniti to share a platform with Nissan is the current QX56. That reason is simply because the QX and Armada were built in the US. As for 2011, the QX will be 100% Japan built.
     
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  14. By  Eric Posted: 1/19/2010 8:09am PST

    You are right , infiniti has gone full rwd since the demise of the 135. Actually David W, all infinity models except the QX, use a variation of the previous 350z FM platform or the 370z new E(updated FM) platform that was initially used in the updated G. It would be nice if they had a diesel like they plan to do in Europe, something with 30+ MPG. Im not a big fun of hybrids.
     
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  15. By bepsf Posted: 1/19/2010 3:40pm PST

    **Munches his cookie**
    "I do think it would be awesome if they offered it in diesel form though, look at the success that BMW and VW are experiencing with it."
    I agree it would be nice tho the BMW diesel isn't really doing that well in the market - If they had offered the 320d I suspect it would have done better...
    My guess is that Renault/Nissan will wait and see how the Maxima dCi fares in the US before committing further diesel entries to the market.
     
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  16. By NoNameDenton Posted: 1/19/2010 4:57pm PST

    At least raise the power a bit or add DI
     
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