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Porsche-Nissan 'Ring battle goes another round: 2010 GT3 down to 7:40 unofficial

 
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Porsche is currently sitting on about $15 billion in debt, including the $980 million from VW

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Laying claim to the title of the fastest run around the Nurburgring's Nordschleife is one of the most coveted titles among the performance elite carmakers. The latest development from Germany has Porsche claiming a 7 minute 40 second unofficial time during an open test day at the hands of the legendary Walter Rohrl.

Porsche and Nissan's duel over the matter has taken on particular fury, with Porsche accusing Nissan of falsifying times, and continuing to insist that the GT-R isn't capable of anything faster than a 7:54 lap without cheating. Even a borrowed Ferrari 430 Scuderia couldn't muster more than 7:45 around the 'Ring at Porsche's hands, reports Motor Trend.

Nissan, on the other hand, just last week reported setting a 7:27.56 second lap, just 1.1 seconds short of the Corvette ZR-1's 7:26.4 set last year - later lowered to 7:22.4 - but about 5 seconds short of the Viper SRT10 ACR's production car record of 7:22.1 (see the video here).

How will it all shake out in the end? Will the Japanese underdog prove itself victorious despite Porsche's slanderous claims? Will the German giant emerge as the wronged but valiant winner? Only time will tell, but fans on each side will no doubt have their minds made up in the mean time.
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Comments (13)

  1. ma_The Mii avatar The Mii Posted: 4/24/2009 6:30pm PDT

    could it be that walter is getting rusty?
     
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  2. ma_The Mii avatar The Mii Posted: 4/24/2009 6:32pm PDT

    dont get me wrong not saying hes inadequate
    but there could be a possibility that nissan has a more talented driver in their team
     
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  3. ma_justinhk2000 avatar justinhk2000 Posted: 4/24/2009 8:27pm PDT

    No automaker would try to lie about this, if they did, they will be going down in the history books as a disgraceful car company, no auto maker would risk that. I think Porsche is just jealous and are purposely making the lap times slower
     
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  4. ma_Chris avatar Chris Posted: 4/25/2009 7:43am PDT

    the problem though.. justin.. is that you either have nissan lying about how fast the GTR is.. or you have porsche lying about how slow the GTR is.... who do you think has more on the line? nissan? nah. if porsche lies about this... they piss off performance car lovers... their entire customer base. if nissan lies about it... well.. you're still going to go buy the altima... cause who cares right!?

    im not saying who i think is lying.. there could just be a series of honest mistakes that has lead to this.. the whole lap time at the ring thing isnt exactly a scientific process.. not like you have the same driver (sebina would probably be the best) to make 10 runs in any given car.. by the definition of science, that wouldnt even be accurate enough but at least it would be better than this current system.. which isnt even a system..
     
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  5. ma_taksan avatar taksan Posted: 4/25/2009 9:45am PDT

    if i work for porsche, of course i would make the lap time better for porsche, same with nissan.
     
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  6. ma_Damien Thomas avatar Damien Thomas Posted: 4/25/2009 7:32pm PDT

    The Nissan GT-R has beaten the Porsche 911 Turbo, GT3 and GT2 in numerous independent tests run by car magazines (in the U.S. and Europe) and with professional drivers. One of the better comparos is the one with Bruno Senna testing the GT-R against the Turbo (a car he admits was one of his favorites) on 5th Gear.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnmpIqFoYtg&feature=related

    Why wouldn't the GT-R be faster than the Porsches around the Nurburgring too?
     
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  7. ma_Aiman avatar Aiman Posted: 4/25/2009 10:10pm PDT

    Who cares if Nissan GT-R is few seconds faster around the ring? No one is going to buy a Nissan instead of Porsche coz it can lap the ring few seconds faster at the hands of professional racing driver.
    Porsche is Porsche no matter what lap times say.
     
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  8. ma_Chris avatar Chris Posted: 4/26/2009 12:42am PDT

    aiman.. and a nissan GT-R is significantly cheaper, and much better value.

    dont say the GT-R is a less desirable car because it was developed by Nissan.

    Ford has the GT, GM has the ZR-1, hell.. Fiat owns ferrari.. you dont look down on them for that do you?
     
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  9. ma_Tall Paul avatar Tall Paul Posted: 4/26/2009 9:10am PDT

    So Mr. Ireson, you wrote the article. Why do you think Porsche is lying about the times?
     
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  10. ma_Damien Thomas avatar Damien Thomas Posted: 4/27/2009 4:25am PDT

    I think people should be happy that a company like Nissan – which traditionally builds family cars and SUVs – can build a car that can beat pretty much everything sports car companies like Porsche and even Ferrari can throw it, and then sell it for less than half the price of the competition.

    Nissan has just lifted the bar, by a mile. It’s a big win for us consumers. Good on Nissan for doing so.
     
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  11. ma_The Mii avatar The Mii Posted: 4/27/2009 1:11pm PDT

    I think people should be happy that a company like Nissan
     
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  12. ma_Countach avatar Countach Posted: 4/29/2009 4:23am PDT

    Well, I totally agreed with what Chris said!

    Anyway, a neighbour got a GTR and its growing on me but if I have the cash, I will still buy another Porsche. I trust Porsche built quality and safety records over any Japanese fast cars.
     
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  13. ma_Teeee avatar Teeee Posted: 4/29/2009 5:50pm PDT

    numbers numbers. get over it both of you! I'm pretty sure 90% of people who buy these car would not be able to bring out such performance out of them anyway! and Porsche- get a new driver. Nissan's got former F1 driver in their car.
     
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