Update: Dealership Says It Will Honor Nissan GT-R eBay Motors Sale After All

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The 2009 Nissan GT-R at issue in Honda of San Marcos eBay Motors auction

The 2009 Nissan GT-R at issue in Honda of San Marcos eBay Motors auction

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According to the buyer, Xou Vang, Randall Ammons, owner of Honda of San Marcos, has decided to do the right thing and honor the eBay auction price. It's a classy move, if a bit late, but we commend Ammons on stepping up in spite of his employee's mistake in listing the car without reserve.

As Xou put it, "The owner Randall called me to give him a call back as he has agreed to sell the car at the eBay price."

Congratulations, Vang on winning that new 2009 Nissan GT-R. Those things are fast, man. Be careful.



Early this morning we received a call from Honda of San Marcos' Pre-Owned manager Ian Jones. We tried to get the dealership's side of the story, but Jones instead focused on our having brought Xou Vang's story to public attention and accused us of slander. We've researched eBay's policies, reviewed the auction listing, interviewed Vang, and attempted to get the dealer's side of the story. We've reported the facts we know and Vang's position as he voiced it. We've even consulted independent legal counsel. The dealership has made similar accusations of slander against Vang.

Despite the threats and hostile tone from the dealership, we're moving forward with our coverage.

The behavior of Honda of San Marcos, as evidenced in part by Jones' refusal to give the dealer's side of the story during the phone call with us, and further by their treatment of Vang over the phone as detailed below, makes it pretty clear Vang will not have his auction price honored. Why the dealer won't drop the $3,900 difference--a mere 7 percent of the purchase price--to keep a customer happy and its reputation clean, is outside of our understanding

Vang's just trying to get his GT-R. He's agreed to a fair price, as determined by the market for that car on that auction. Honda of San Marcos didn't want to sell the car for what buyers were willing to pay, according to the auction--but they failed to set a reserve price.

According to the Better Business Bureau, in response to Vang's complaint, the dealership responded with the following: "On August 09, 2011, the business provided the following information: Mr. Vang has engaged in slander against Honda of San Marcos and attempted to purposley [sic] and unlawfully disrupt the dealership's ability to operate. as a result of these documented offenses and on advice from counsel Honda San Marcos will not discuss this matter with the BBB."

We got in contact with eBay Motors to see what their official stance on the matter is, and they had this to say:

"We are reaching out to the dealer to confirm what happened. If the buyer's story is accurate, this behavior is in direct violation of the eBay User agreement http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html

        Specifically, the Seller has:
          1)       Failed to deliver items purchased
          2)       Attempted to manipulate the price of the item

The eBay Dealer team will contact the Seller immediately and if warranted notify them of their violation of the user agreement. If the Seller fails to comply, and has further incidences like this, eBay may either limit or suspend account privileges."

Since we broke Vang's story onto the automotive web last night, enthusiasts all over the Internet have taken up the cause, including posting to the dealership's Facebook page (which has since been sterilized and shut down), Yahoo! listing, and much more. They've even created at least two pages on Facebook calling for Honda of San Marcos to honor their deal with Vang. Check out the link to the original forum post at My350Z.com below for all of the action--now at 27 pages and growing.

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Comments (16)
  1. why would u put it up on ebay with no reserve if your not going to honor the winning bid.i could sell him my GTR with 15,600 miles gun metallic for $55,000 going to get the 2012 well all i can say keep us inform.

  2. Sounds to me like someone forgot to put on a reserve for this car, and then it sold, so they're trying to get out of it..Big oops.

  3. Here we go again!
    The last time I heard about this was a dealer that did the same thing with a E91 BMW M3 on eBay. They refused to sell it, at first. However, after an attorney got invovled on the buyer's behalf, the dealership eventually honored the eBay agreement.
    I hope the same holds true for this buyer.

  4. This is a prime example of how dealerships screw people; they lie, they cheat, and they lie more to get your money. My advice to the Hmong fellow, get a good attorney and this dealership will be in a roller coaster ride.

  5. This is clearly a bait and switch scenario.

  6. I have yet to leave a dealership after buying a car without feeling cheated and disgusted. I hope they get their eBay account closed for this!

  7. These guys are honoring the deal. It is good to see them do the right thing.


  8. Yes, it is... after they slapped themselves on the face LOL

  9. "You are" is not equal to "your"

  10. The dealer and its legal council don't understand what slander means.

  11. What's funny is they (the dealership) has ruined its own reputation before honoring the bid. This is a huge slam in the face! A big time dealership like Honda (this is THE Honda we are talking about) slapped itself on the face for this, now it's all over the internet and the news. I now wonder how are they going to bring new customers and keep existing customers?

  12. What if its all a hoax???

  13. Rebooter, I very much doubt this is a hoax. I've been in communication with Xou Vang throughout this ordeal and he's been very consistent and sincere in his desire to buy the car. He told me last night he would be returning the call later today--I believe he works odd hours, and he's in Alaska, which makes syncing with the dealership a bit tougher. I'd give it a day or two before I started hollering hoax.

  14. So glad he got his whip. Too bad it took forever to get this resolved.

  15. Yeh, I realize it was stupid that they didn't put a reserve price on it, but I can understand not wanting to sell it for less than they originally wanted. Car dealerships pay in order to sell their cars, they only keep a small amount no matter how much the car goes for, I'm talking barely a couple grand for the GT-R, if that. So if their out $3,900 than that's probably the amount they were getting for the sale.

  16. Anyone else notice that the owner, Randall Ammons, that finally agreed to sell the car for the eBay price is also the "Internet Manager" originally in charge of the sale? When I saw Randy K. Ammons, I thought perhaps it was the owner's son handling web sales but clicked on the link to see what's obviously a guy in his 60's. Strange... Anyway, happy to see the power of social media at work!

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