Official U.S. prices announced for BMW 335d and X5 xDrive35d
December 31st, 1969
BMW’s first U.S. diesel was spotted testing earlier this year in California’s Death Valley in the form of a slightly disguised 3-series sedan packing a twin-turbo 3.0L straight-six oil-burner. The new diesel is the 2009 335d sedan, which is set to arrive at the end of the year as part of the facelifted 3-series range. The diesel version of the X5, the xDrive35d, will also be making its debut, and official U.S. pricing for both of the diesels was announced during a webcast today.
The 335d will start at $44,725, a premium of about $2,500 over a similarly-equipped automatic transmission 3-series sedan. The X5 diesel gains a bit more of a premium, starting at $52,025, or about $4,500 more than a base xDrive30i gasoline-fueled model. Both are eligible for federal tax credits, however - $900 in the case of the 335d and $1,550 in the case of the X5.
While BMW has been offering diesel vehicles in Europe since 1983, where the more fuel-efficient option accounts for 67% of the carmaker’s sales, low demand for this type of engine in North America has put BMW off from importing them until now.
First announced at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, the new 335d destined for North America will feature the same twin-turbocharged 3.0L engine as European models but will develop a slightly lower output of 265hp (198kW) and a V8-beating 425 lb-ft (575Nm) of torque – European spec cars develop 286hp (213kW) and 428lb-ft (580Nm) of torque.
Expect to see the 0-60mph sprint completed in around 6.2 seconds and fuel-economy levels at 23mpg (10.2L/100km) in the city and 33mpg (7.1L/100km) on the highway.
New front and rear fascias, a new grille, redesigned air intakes and brake ducts, updated fog lights and a new, more flowing hood design mark the list of changes expected for the new 2009 model 3-series. You can read more details about the facelift in our previous story by clicking here.2009 BMW 3-series facelift
BMW’s first U.S. diesel was spotted testing earlier this year in California’s Death Valley in the form of a slightly disguised 3-series sedan packing a twin-turbo 3.0L straight-six oil-burner. The new diesel is the 2009 335d sedan, which is set to arrive at the end of the year as part of the facelifted 3-series range. The diesel version of the X5, the xDrive35d, will also be making its debut, and official U.S. pricing for both of the diesels was announced during a webcast today.
The 335d will start at $44,725, a premium of about $2,500 over a similarly-equipped automatic transmission 3-series sedan. The X5 diesel gains a bit more of a premium, starting at $52,025, or about $4,500 more than a base xDrive30i gasoline-fueled model. Both are eligible for federal tax credits, however - $900 in the case of the 335d and $1,550 in the case of the X5.
While BMW has been offering diesel vehicles in Europe since 1983, where the more fuel-efficient option accounts for 67% of the carmaker’s sales, low demand for this type of engine in North America has put BMW off from importing them until now.
First announced at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, the new 335d destined for North America will feature the same twin-turbocharged 3.0L engine as European models but will develop a slightly lower output of 265hp (198kW) and a V8-beating 425 lb-ft (575Nm) of torque – European spec cars develop 286hp (213kW) and 428lb-ft (580Nm) of torque.
Expect to see the 0-60mph sprint completed in around 6.2 seconds and fuel-economy levels at 23mpg (10.2L/100km) in the city and 33mpg (7.1L/100km) on the highway.
New front and rear fascias, a new grille, redesigned air intakes and brake ducts, updated fog lights and a new, more flowing hood design mark the list of changes expected for the new 2009 model 3-series. You can read more details about the facelift in our previous story by clicking here.
Official U.S. prices announced for BMW 335d and X5 xDrive35d
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The BMW 335d will command about $2,500 more than a comparably outfitted petrol 3-series
Enlarge PhotoThe 335d will start at $44,725, a premium of about $2,500 over a similarly-equipped automatic transmission 3-series sedan. The X5 diesel gains a bit more of a premium, starting at $52,025, or about $4,500 more than a base xDrive30i gasoline-fueled model. Both are eligible for federal tax credits, however - $900 in the case of the 335d and $1,550 in the case of the X5.
While BMW has been offering diesel vehicles in Europe since 1983, where the more fuel-efficient option accounts for 67% of the carmaker’s sales, low demand for this type of engine in North America has put BMW off from importing them until now.
First announced at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, the new 335d destined for North America will feature the same twin-turbocharged 3.0L engine as European models but will develop a slightly lower output of 265hp (198kW) and a V8-beating 425 lb-ft (575Nm) of torque – European spec cars develop 286hp (213kW) and 428lb-ft (580Nm) of torque.
Expect to see the 0-60mph sprint completed in around 6.2 seconds and fuel-economy levels at 23mpg (10.2L/100km) in the city and 33mpg (7.1L/100km) on the highway.
New front and rear fascias, a new grille, redesigned air intakes and brake ducts, updated fog lights and a new, more flowing hood design mark the list of changes expected for the new 2009 model 3-series. You can read more details about the facelift in our previous story by clicking here.
2009 BMW 3-series facelift
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Meet the top commenters on the LeaderboardBy mlevere1992 #1, Posted: 7/9/2008
About time!
By Turkle #2, Posted: 7/9/2008
With the 335i sedan getting 17/26, you have to wonder how long it would take to recoup the fuel savings by running a 335d. I will have to wait and see what the mark up will be for the diesel engine, add that to the stupid pricing of diesel fuel and I have a feeling that over the period of 5 years of ownership, the 335i will be a better value.
By www.mywheelsonwalls.com #3, Posted: 7/9/2008
Turkle-Why would you assme that diesel technology is more expensive than gas? Diesels have been around since they invented dirt and has long since been paid for unlike hybrids.
May I suggest you leave the U.S and go to Europe for a vacation? You'll find your rental car will be a diesel, the cars on the road around you will be mostly diesel, and finding a hybrid will be like looking for rocking horse shit.....
Some more knowledge to further lessen your ignorance, todays diesels actually have more power than their gas counter parts. An engine of note would be the twin turbo V6 that Jaguar uses is simply stunning with many industry awards racked up and is just a joy to drive.
By justin #4, Posted: 7/9/2008
My aunts 2004 330xi gets an average of 27 mpg and if shes rly light pedaled she once saw 35 mpg on the entire tank, this was all on roads in the suburbs she never drives on the highway. Of course it does have lower power but is AWD
By Turkle #5, Posted: 7/9/2008
Mr. mywheelsonwalls - I don't assume anything. I research before making comments and rely on my memory from previous articles where heads of the auto industry have commented that diesel engines slated for the U.S. will cost more than there gasoline engined equivalents.
Diesels are so popular in Europe for one reason, the price of the fuel. Here in the states (you are correct my perspective is focused on the U.S. situation) the price of diesel per gallon is higher than regular gasoline (benzine). I went out to 3 German manufacturer websites and got some pricing between diesel and benzine cars. Here you go. All cars show the diesel version first and all prices are in Euro.
BMW 318d 29,950, 318i 27,300. 320d 34,350, 320i 27300.
VW Jetta: 1.9TDI 22,350. 1.6Benzine 20,225.
VW Passat: 1.9TDI 25,450. 1.6Benzine 23,075.
M-B C200D 35,253. M-B C200Benzine 33,111.
In all situations the price of the diesel is higher. I guess diesel "dirt" is more expensive because it is older.
I never question the inherent advantages of a diesel over a gasoline engine (re: your Jaguar comments). I question the return on investment the consumer has to consider when looking at fuel efficiency and purchase price of the automobile. In Europe where diesel is better priced it makes sense, but in the U.S. (where the article points out the 335d is destined) I don't expect buyers to be compelled to purchase if they are looking for fuel cost savings.
By Gus #6, Posted: 7/9/2008
What in California? Yeah right.
Regular unleaded: $4.59
Premium unleaded: $4.89
Diesel: $5.29 and not available most stations.
Are you kidding me? You think anyone is going to buy a vehicle that costs more to buy, more to fuel (most people aren't going to do the math to figure out whether it's cheaper per mile for them or not) and which is percieved as dirtier, noisier and less powerful than a petrol car?
You go right ahead, I'll stick with gasoline for now, or until Diesel costs the same or less than regular...
By HECTOR #7, Posted: 7/9/2008
I am sorry to say it but it's true. This car makes sense in Europe where diesel is still cheaper than gas (though my friend who drives a diesel Passat tells me the gap is narrowing) and where diesel cars no longer command a premimum.
Here in America it's exactly the opposite. Diesel is more expensive, not available at all gas stations and diesel cars are likely to be more expensive (the car companies banking in the gullibility of the buying public). And though this is bound to be ONE SWEET ENGINE I don't think us Yankees will go for it.
By Renton #8, Posted: 7/9/2008
Xi Wagon with Sport PKG.... want!
By Lamb #9, Posted: 7/9/2008
How can you quote a figure of 33mpg, when in the UK the official rating is 42mpg combined city/highway. Even with the UK and USA have a different sized gallon the difference cannot be so great.
By www.mywheelsonwalls.com #10, Posted: 7/9/2008
To my detractors- Its called a paradigm shift and that is what is going on within the industry right now. You may be in a gas car now and contemplating a hybrid but you will be in a diesel sooner than you think.
Mark my words....
A Blue-tec E class Merc (on sale in the U.S. now by the way) for instance returns 38 MPG on the freeway try and get that from an LS 400, 5 series BMW, or a Jag XF. Your probably looking at maybe 24 MPG from their V8's. You may argue BMW gets 28 MPG from there six in the 5 series but on power todays diesels are more on par with a gas powered V8.
Hybrids will go away and just like Europe diesel will become more available and revisions in the emission laws that currently restrict them is some states, six states to be exact. As for price the market place will dictate that as demand increases.
By Gus #11, Posted: 7/10/2008
I'm not saying Diesels aren't great machines, I used to own one, a 1982 300SD Turbodiesel behemoth. It was my first car, a hand-me down my parents bought during the oil embargo. 35mpg, and that way back in 1987. Finally got to 300,000 miles before I sold it and it needed a new engine block.
Man, Mercedes doesn't build cars like that anymore.
What I'm saying is the buying public isn't savvy enough to figure out why Diesels are so good. Maybe if the price goes down and the fuel is available everywhere...
By Turkle #12, Posted: 7/10/2008
Mr. Mywheelsonwalls - "Mark my words..." How arrogant! Do you have a crystal ball? Can you see into the future? Why do you keep bringing up hybrids? You are the only person talking about hybrids (and rocking horse shit). The article does not mention hybrids, no other poster mentions them except you.
Since you spend most of your posts speculating, I will do the same as a response to your most recent post. The six states that have more stringent emission laws for diesel are not going to revise (lower) their requirements. One of those states is California (accounts for 20% of U.S. new car sales). It is more likely that more states will adopt these requirements or force Congress to pass laws aligning the national emission standards to the more stringent states. We have already seen that happening with CAFE ratings.
Consumers drive the industry in the U.S., not a government subsidizing one fuel over another (diesel vs. benzine), like most of Europe. The increased price in diesel (in the U.S. at least) is due to the additional refinement steps necessary to reduce the sulphur content to reach ULSD levels (15ppm). That additional cost will keep diesel prices higher, regardless of increased demand. Most of what I have stated above is speculation... so you don't have to mark my words.
Oh, if diesel is Konig in Europe, why are most European manufacturers announcing hybrid R&D efforts? If hybrids are going to die off as you predict and be replaced by diesels, don't you see this as a completely moronic waste of money and effort?
By www.mywheelsonwalls.com #13, Posted: 7/10/2008
Turkle- You hit the nail right on the head, for once. Why would MB invest in hybrids when its Blue Tec diesel already meets the future target now? Upon research you'll find most European compacts and sub-compacts are well over the 50 MPG and some push the 70 MPG mark. So yes to invest in hybrids is a total and complete waste of time when the same companies in other markets around the world are way above the proposed standards with diesels already.
As for bringing up hybrids. The article itself discussed "fuel efficient alternatives" so I see bringing up hybrids as a valid point.
Ultimately though I'm just pleased to see that there is at least one company not jumping on the hybrid wagon when it is a technology that no other market in the world is rushing to or evenly remotely thinking of it.
As for my crystal ball it works very well and not only do I see Hybrids not lasting I see Toyota stumbling in the same manner as the big three have done by having too many trucks and no compacts. In Toyota's case it will be a small fortune spent on hybrids and no other alternatives. I say this as its a known fact that they cover their hybrid costs over all their vehicles and not just hybrids. So when you buy a Tundra your paying for a portion of someone elses Prius and that just makes no sense at all.
So once again and with plenty of arrogance MARK MY WORDS.....
By worldbfree4me #14, Posted: 7/10/2008
You guys had enough yet...Here are the the facts on the BMW new Twin Turbo 3.0..."The 7-Series Hybrid will mate the 4.4L V8 to an electric motor that will be powered by Lithium Ion batteries, which sounds great but it won't match the same fuel economy numbers as the new 3.0L diesel (39.2mpg)." Yes you read that right 39.2mpg!!! If the big 7 can get that, guess how much you can expect from the 3 or 5 series with the same power plant? That is value my friends even at, yes $5/gallon
MINI diesel please
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